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| KenP | Posted on: 2008 Sep 8, 06:48 | |||
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If only I'd had the timing to play this hand!!! The point of the comment was almost perfect. (If you are reading the HH's in my blog, you will see where I missed a transition from RAZZ to Stud. Find it on your own.) Dealt to Ken.P [4c 9s] PokerWorks said, “that’s tood bad on the sngs” grupper: folds Ken.P: folds rudeelvis: raises 20 to 40 PokerWorks: raises 20 to 60 She has AKs rudeelvis: calls 20 *** FLOP *** [4s 2h 9d] rudeelvis: checks PokerWorks: bets 20 rudeelvis: calls 20 *** TURN *** [4s 2h 9d] [7d] rudeelvis: checks PokerWorks said, “yeah, Ken, you start with the worst and make the best” PokerWorks: checks ----------------------------------------------------- [b]For the disbelievers, there is truth that any two cards can win the hand. And I did have position in the unopened pot. Later I might have done it. This was a very early hand and not quite worth the effort. If only that comment had come before I folded I know I'd have played the hand.[/b]   P.S. I'd just played KJ from the small blind and won the hand off Linda on a Jack high board. I showed the hand. I don't normally do that in the 'real world' but hey...I am a really nice guy. I guess that didn't work out. Ken Prevo Blogging at: www.pokerperambulation.com |
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lrgeenen
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Posted on: 2008 Sep 8, 11:44 | |||
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Me thinks the title of your post would imply that I was fried, flipped out, irritated or having a hard time with the fact that each time you have entered a pot where i raised pre-flop, that you won with the worst hand. Quite the contrary. As soon as the Luck Box Factor is gone from the equation, I'll be stacking your chips. I like the calls. Come on in Ken. Linda R. Geenen http://table-tango.pokerworks.com/ What game are you playing? |
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| KenP | Posted on: 2008 Sep 8, 12:29 | |||
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au contrere - I didn't question your earlier (or current  ) sanity. And I can fold a flop that misses. But, that would have been so much fun and that tournament is about fun. As to being dumb/lucky, you ain't seen nuttin yet... - If you think I might have burned you, what about poor JB and the very last hand (RAZZ) with my Q-high taking down his K-high? I figured that hand was down to who outdrew who on the river. We both bricked and I was accidentally ahead. - I also managed a huge suckout on him with the set of ducks in Omaha. (Really late) Now that was serious mojo at work. But, I know his game fairly well. Maybe there was a read that was wrong to the river but it was still a read. That hand changed the tournament. I ain't proud of that one but I would have been in the one we're talking about above and not for the obvious reasons. (If I'd played it better, I might have raised him on the flop to try to freeze.) - That nine-four isn't that far off from something Hansen or Negreenu would play late from position. They can get annoying but they can stack folks with them against premium cards. With 20-40 blinds it wasn't worth the try. That is certain. - I've posted every hand and my cards. Have fun with them. Anybody, including a raw beginner, will find spot to critique. Its never about one hand -- well, maybe that huge suckout on JB would qualify... But, the pot odds said you had to hang around for that last card to try for a low or the two outer or whatever. Should I have gotten to that point? Very doubtful. But, JB doesn't take prisoners and he can do a lot with post oak plays. If you let him direct traffic, he'll send you down a dead end street. - Overall though the tournament doesn't have weak players and that is its enjoyment for me. You can give some advanced moves a try knowing that you aren't surrounded by calling stations. I'll admit to making more of those than I should at times. OK? Ken Prevo Blogging at: www.pokerperambulation.com |
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Posted on: 2008 Sep 8, 12:40 | |||
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I think you missed my point. You are a great player. You know what you're doing. You know when to bet, when to check, and when to raise, when to check raise, and when to fold. My point was the title of the post. So you beat me, big DEAL! Get in line Sonny, it ain't a first. I am not even close to looking for a padded room over being beat in a poker tournament by you or anyone else. Your greatness has nothing to do with Linda. You are just great on your own.  *glasses clink*
Linda R. Geenenhttp://table-tango.pokerworks.com/ What game are you playing? |
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| KenP | Posted on: 2008 Sep 8, 12:41 | |||
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Let me tell you my worst playing ever. It was in a freeroll of all things. I had a nice stack; it was late play; and a maniac was stealing my blinds. I was Broomcorn's uncle. I got in good and was ahead on the flop but he hit the turn and the river. - I blamed myself and that was right. He'd worn me down to the point he or anybody could call. I did it all to myself and it still bugs me 5 years later. - I'd have been prouder of myself if I'd played a 94 when I could really push back. Ken Prevo Blogging at: www.pokerperambulation.com |
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| KenP | Posted on: 2008 Sep 8, 12:45 | |||
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Well, i was being facetious (as usual) Along with that I can and love to overstate for effect. As players go, I am slightly above average on most days. That doesn't leave huge leeway. Mistakes -- just like for everybody else-- I have made them all. I still can but usually less often. - JB is a better player than I am and he's done it regularly for a lot more years. But, last night I beat him. Be a big mistake to do any bragging! That is pretty close to you also. - As to having the worst hand preflop, well there is post flop play and that determines the outcome according to a former-dealer friend of mine. Both time, btw, we've played I think you've had me on your right and often with position when we clashed. Ken Prevo Blogging at: www.pokerperambulation.com |
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Posted on: 2008 Sep 8, 15:53 | |||
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The only hand I think I may have outplayed you in - and then again you may have had nothing and had to fold, was last tourney in a RAZZ hand, I made trips and kept betting...damn it RAZZ is so unforgiving. But the tourneys are fun, the banter is one of the biggest parts of the fun. Linda R. Geenen http://table-tango.pokerworks.com/ What game are you playing? |
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| KenP | Posted on: 2008 Sep 9, 06:57 | |||
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More than the banter for me is the play. It is an above average group. They say you don't want that but that isn't really the case. You just need to try to bring your A-game. Better players let you be a better player. You can play a different strategy or maybe I should say a strategy period. - This is one of the few games that you can play intelligently. Those doing the Chris freerolls point out thoughtless play ad infinitum. BTW, there was one pre-UIGEA freeroll that was as good. Cardplayer gave away a nice stack of change (2k I think) to those who posted in their forums. It had the saner version of all the styles active. I made a bit of money in them and won one. Our 5.50 plays as well as 220's. And most of us don't want to gamble that big. Where are you going to get this kind of game beyond our setup? It represents a limited subset of games available only in the private section for oddball groups like us. - The need to change gears is where a lot of those type players miss out. That was a frequent topic in my early articles and blog. I didn't do that well the other night. I remained a bit too aggressive as a personality. Of course you need that in short table more too. Our tournament is more a SnG but you can't play a normal SnG style and win it. - JB probably has more of an idea of my play than I do. He has seen it on a site he and another friend of mine used to play. That include when I had a big chip lead and bluff the guy with the nuts for a big chuck of stack. - It is funny that the worst hand I played heads up (O8 hand) got me the tournament. But, that won't shock JB and he'll appreciate it for what it is. While JB and I are aggressive we're usually doing it with some semblance for the possibilities against the pot odds. - It is like how I felt bad in a Hold'em hand against Maxie but took the chips anyway. I had KQ and pushed the hand all the way. The flop was AQx and I bet all the way to have her fold the river. I don't know what her cards were and I did river a K and I'd have hated to see her call and lose to the river again. That for some was a donk play. I thought I considered it well. I was in a position to fire 3 bullets and that isn't always wrong with just an overcard up in a two way pot. Yes, I'd have probably played it different against JB and maybe he'd have stole it from me with hard play and even worse but a draw of some kind or I might have check-raised and won the pot--we were both doing some of that heads up. I thought I could count on Maxie to be passive. That's nasty but that's poker. There are so many ways we can look like Fido's backside and still be playing with reason. We had a 3 way pot with me betting a street when an A came. We all checked the river. I had AT and won it against A9. I played that hand different from the previous mention and with a somewhat better hand. It was a lot more passive and a 3 way pot. That's changing gears for the right reason. If I'd bet the river that would have been more a donk move than betting that second pair. Later or possibly with the button instead of leading, it could have been a cardinal sin by not try to extract full value. - Cards can be the third most important thing in a hand. And nobody gets that right all the time. - Speaking of reason; I'm starting to ramble beyond that; so I'll shut up for now. Ken Prevo Blogging at: www.pokerperambulation.com |
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